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Hello, my beautiful rescue, mixed breed dog Maude has just been diagnosed with AIHA and is currently undergoing a transfusion.
She is 4.5 years old, very healthy, lively and loving of live, balls and sticks!
She received a bit or sting last Thursday which swelled up her nose. She was quite lethagic after that, so I took her straight to the vet who prescribed metacam (antiinflam) and amoxycillin. She brighted up over the weekend a little but was still lethargic compared to normal. The swelling on her nose came right down. She was off her food.
I took her back to vet on Monday where they diagnosed anaemia (gums were very pale by now) and tests showed it to be hemolytic. She has been on prednisolone at 4mg/kg bw (40g, twice a day, she weighs 20kg), her hematocrit was 18% on Monday, it went up on Tuesday to 21% but has then stayed at 15 or 16% until this morning. HGB is low, WBC a little high. She is eating well. Today they did a blood transfusion – to buy her more time for the drugs to work. I am a nutritionist (for humans) but this has all comes as a huge shock to me.
The vets tell me they suspect it is triggered by adverse reactions to the medications OR to whatever stung / bit her (we live in Ibiza Spain).
They did a scan today to check for any other factors, they saw something abnormal on her pancreas and want me to have a more detailed scan on that next week.
I am looking for any support and help from those who have experience with this condition. WHat questions should I be asking of my vet? has anyone else seen this with a pancreatic connection? (my instinct is that is a red herring but I wont rule anything out yet), and what else could I be trying to support her? Thank you!
Angela,
Welcome to Second Chance. I am sorry to read about Maude. This is indeed a very sudden event.
A severe reaction like this to a sting or bite is unfortunately common enough to be part of the known triggers for autoimmune hemolytic anemia in dogs. In this case we could call it IMHA or immune mediated hemolytic anemia because we know that this was “mediated” by a known trigger. These triggers can be numerous and variable. Many breeds have a genetic predisposition to autoimmune diseases and the immune system will react when enough of the triggers are present. So it is often a whole group of triggers, not just one, that leads to IMHA. It’s quite possible that once she was stung her immune system became alert to many other things like medications etc. For example we might see an older female, perhaps a breed like a Cocker Spaniel, in heat (lots of hormones), who may be overweight (inflammatory influences) and the vet suggests that she”get that yearly booster shot to protect her.” This can and often leads to the expression of IMHA.
The term AIHA is considered being more of a primary cause for autoimmune hemolytic anemia. The immune system is triggered by an unknown trigger. And there are plenty of times where owners and vets never really can pinpoint exactly what triggered the condition.
Luckily, the acute care is usually the same, high dose immunosuppressive drugs such as prednisone. This suppresses the over activity of the immune system in an attempt to stop it from attacking and destroying red blood cells. But you are probably guessing that longer term use of this drug has some serious side effects. What is long term? We should hope for almost immediate responses but some dogs need longer periods of time to stop hemolysis. They may need one or more transfusions to give the drugs time to work.
What is critical during this period of time is for the vet to begin looking for other triggers that may be contributing to the condition. If there are other treatable causes then it will be very helpful to start treatments. For instance tick diseases are a frequent trigger and treating the dog with doxycycline immediately kills the tick disease and the immune system reduces the attack. In young dogs they often put everything in their mouths so we look for ingested coins or older style rat poisons. Older dogs can have tumors that can be a trigger. Vaccines are part of these triggers. Dogs that have had previous autoimmune conditions such as developing atopic dermatitis (canine inhaled allergies) at a young age will be prone to developing AIHA IMHA. Digestive disorders seem to be very complicit in the development of autoimmune conditions. The inflammatory conditions that develop in the intestine contribute. The pancreas, as you mentioned, can also contribute indirectly and we might see this as more of a non-regenerative anemia due to poor nutrition absorption.
Severe acute cases can be a difficult balancing act because the homeostasis of the circulatory system becomes compromised. Red blood cells being destroyed in circulation create a large load of intravascular debris and organs such as the liver and kidneys have a hard time processing it. You may see jaundice for instance as unprocessed waste builds up in the blood. Since you are a nutritionist, you will understand that we want to reduce the wastes that these organs are trying to process by, for instance, avoiding red meats in the diet that add even more red blood cell wastes. The liver is already being compromised by processing the prednisone (you will see the liver enzymes rise during treatment) and so we often recommend the liver sparing diet. See this page for the diet, click on the picture for Liver Sparing Diet and it will open a window, you can then click on the upper right hand arrow to open it in a full tab where you can save or print it.
https://www.secondchanceaihadogs.com/nutrition-resources
Another unfortunate condition of acute hemolysis is a breakdown of the normal clotting process in the blood (called the clotting cascade.) We often have small injuries in the blood vessels and the body is very good at quickly clotting these. But with the instability of hemolysis comes a greater risk of inappropriate clotting. The medical term for this is DIC disseminated intravascular coagulation. The body begins to sense that there seems to be injuries everywhere in the blood vessels and it begins to try to fix everything all at once. Fibrin strands begin to form in many places and clots develop. Thus we almost always recommend an immediate discussion with the vet about the use of low dose aspirin or other clinical drugs like heparin (dosed carefully for dogs.) In the early acute days clotting can be a difficult condition to manage.
Transfusions are helpful and you may experience a rise in the PCV HCT but then the next day see it fall. This is expected. But the important things about the transfusion are the additional elements of the blood such as serum, this helps reduce hypovolemia, which is low fluid volume. Transfusions improve homeostasis. Each transfusion after the first must be matched and typed. Transfusions must be done slowly to avoid transfusion reactions! After a few weeks, transfusion triggers should be carefully evaluated by an expert to determine if the need for another one is called for.
So in general you are asking “what should I be doing?” First, remember that you want to be included as part of the team that helps Maude. Be polite and calm at all times. Request nicely but firmly that you want to be included in all clinic activities with her, excluding of course xrays. You want copies of all her lab and blood work (which you can upload to me on the Urgent Advice page.) Your vets know you are upset and worried, so your job is to be focused on helping get Maude better, not expressing your out of control feelings. Maude will sense your panic and fear and then feel she has done something wrong. Be cheerful and happy around her.
Read everything you can on this website. We have put up a ton of information for you to study. Ask me questions about anything you aren’t sure about. Read Our Stories to get a feel for how this condition can be so variable from one dog to the next.
Most of all, we want you to make decisions based on your knowledge, not on your emotional feelings. Since you are limited in time, you can’t possibly understand everything you need to do that right now! Trust us to guide you with the decision making processes. Vally and I both had dogs that were seriously ill and we understand how you feel right now. Panic and fear.
Vally will hopefully pop in later and advise you about some supplements that should be added to Maude’s protocol. She can even make up a chart to help you dose everything properly!
What questions do you have for me?
my best, patrice
Hi Angela, and welcome to the site. I’m very sorry Maude is so sick right now but you reacted quickly and got her help and that’s the very best thing you could have done for her.
Let us know if there are any other meds Maude is on and yes, I’d be very happy to make up a chart for you to help with timing. Some drugs should not be given at the same time as food and other drugs. Prednisone on the other hand, always give with food.
Patrice has explained a lot and don’t hesitate to ask anything. We love to help.
Vally (angel Bingo) and Saba
Patrice and Vally, than you SOOO much, just reading these posts has been hugely helpful. Its allowing me to feel like I can help Maude much more.
So, to work!
She had her transfusion yesterday, she seemed much perkier last night, this morning she is lethargic but her gums are a better pink colour.
We have a follow up with the vet at 12.30 CET and I will get copies of all the tests to date and post them. I know she was checked for Leishmaniasis and malaria, the former is very prevalent in this part of Spain, but I dont know about other tick diseases. In humans I work with Borrelia / Lymes so I have an understanding of that.
I´m a little reluctant to put her through the stress of another scan for the pancreas, but equally I dont want to risk missing something. But I will get more details on exactly whats involved, it is currently scheduled for next tuesday.
Our plan before this happened was to travel back to the UK, leaving on 9th July and taking a ferry crossing. She would be with me all the time and she travels well. My feeling is I want to get her to the UK if at all possible, because there I will have more Vet and treatment options. I´m very happy with the vets here but Ibiza is a small island, so there are always limitations. Do you have any thoughts on that plan?
I can´t thank you enough at the moment!
Much love, Angela & Maude
Hello, well an update today.
The good news is her haematocrit is increasing following the transfusion, it is now 22.5 % and she better in herself, the vet says her heart rate is better too.
The bad news is that she has some distension in her belly and there is some fluid associated with inflammation there. Based on a sample of the fluid and a basic scan of the belly area the vet suspects (but cannot confirm) a tumour in her pancreas. He suggests a TAC scan on Tuesday to confirm this. But tells me if there is a tumour we only have palliative care avaialable. He doesn´t think pancreatitis is likely as she has no symptoms (no vomitting, very little pain).
He says a tumour would be the likely explanation for triggering the anaemia.
I´m obviously devastated to hear that as a possible diagnosis with such a bad prognosis. I don´t want to put her through any uneccessary stress but of course I want to give her every possible chance.
I have uploaded all her tests via the urgent advice section.
In terms of her current medication:
Enroxfloxacino 5mg/kg per 24 hours
Prednisolone 80mg per 24 hours (she´s had a mixture of IV and oral, it will be oral all over the weekend and in one dose, with food)
Imurel (azatioprina) 50mg per 24 hours, oral.
She has a reasonable appetite and prefers soft food at the moment, the vet has given me some convalescence type food which licks her lips for, but only has about half a tin at a time. I tried to add some rice or some of her normal food (Acana) but she leaves that.
I have now read the liver diet from Jean Dodds and plan to start her on that, if you think that is a good idea?
Someone has given me some bone broth for her this weekend, I´m not sure whether to give her this or not, given the liver diet information.
Other questions:
What else, supplement wise, apart from the suggestions in liver diet (multi, SAMe, Milk Thistle?
If I understand the diet sheet correctly, for a 45lb dog, it is 4 cups of white fish + 3 cups sweet potato + 3 cups of white potato, cook then feed over 1 week?
Are you aware of anyone using CBD oil or similar for these cases? either the hemolytic anaemia or suspected tumour. Any views?
Anything else you can suggest?