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Hello,
my dog was diagnosed of probably aplastic anemia (bone marrow puncture suggested this, see bottom). As she had anaplasmosis allready a year ago, we first thought it’s a relapse of the anaplasmosis and lost weeks by treatment with antibiotics.
She then went down to HCT of 16,2%, PLT 38 (148-484) and got a transfusion after bone marrow puncture in emergency vet clinic.
Was put on prednisolone 2mg/kg once daily plus 20mg omeprazol. HCT right after transfusionwas 27,7%, PLT 49.
3 days after the transfusion CBC showed HCT 24%, PLT 21 and ciclosporin was added, 50mg twice daily for 3 days, then 100mg twice daily.
Another 4 days later HCT 17,9%, PLT 40 and been told in the vet clinic to check blood less often at my “house vet” (we did check in between, cause PLT falling: 5 days after tansfusion: 19, 6th day: 21 and then 30), cause this might cause anemia, too, but check again after 3 days, better 5.
Checked after 3 days HCT 16,7%, PLT 105, so Ciclosporin now 150mg twice daily in the local clinic.
Check again 4 days later HCT 16%, PLT 313 in that clinic.
Been told, there is no response and I should consider killing her (I don’t think euthanize is the right word, cause this suggests death is a better option then life).
Since the immunosuppression my dog does not seen sick at all – beside of course the anemia symptoms like fast heart rate and little energy. But she’d go for walks – I didn’t do, cause I panic, when I meassured her heart rate. :>
Before suppression she was like having a flu or so, when the anemia wasn’t showing off the typical symptoms yet – then anemia symtoms added of course with anemia.
Although the clinic vet is convinced, that there is no hope if there is no affect of the meds yet (PLT count doesn’t seem to be of any value for this vet?), she gave out Mycophenolate.
After 3 days of Mycophenolate HCT 14,6%, PLT 469 (WBC slightly over top).
Again suggestion to kill my dog, allthough at the appointment before she said, she’d be ok with even giving human immune globulins, when there is no response.
My house vet and me kind of insisted on giving Milk another transfusion (donor was a friend’s dog – clinic would not have given pRBCs or whole blood from their donors) that day – yesterday.
I read some research papers, that describe response times usually about 38 days or up to 2 month in median and also quite some time longer, if the bone marrow is affected.
I know in humans – who initially recieve the potent treatment with ATG – it usually takes 2-4 month to see affect, but can also be longer like 6 month or maybe more. So I would think, it takes more time than 3 weeks of pred and 2,5 weeks of ciclosporine to get reticulocytoses and therefore regeneration?
Am I wrong in seeing the super improvement of platelets as a response?
My “house vet” is very commited and also does not think of killing the dog, that doesn’t suffer at all – just might show anemia symptoms, if not treated. After tranfusion she’s really fine.
All the liver, kidney etc. counts are really good – we were astonished considering her medication. Just the ALT is slightly off (162 (10-125), is was more off under doxy (about 250) treatment, when we still thought it’s anaplasmosis.
I am not so sure, that the mycophenolate was a good decision. Or just a bit more time for the ciclosporin to work would have been better. My dog got a bit worse after adding the mycophenolate (clinically and per day decline of RBC, HCT, HB in those 3 days). But it’s just 3 days, so maybe just coincidence.
Looking forward to your replys.
Tharin
Bone marrow cytology said:
“As far as assassable there could be a mid grade hypoplasia of all cell lines.
Additionally there are hint of a lymphoplasmatic infiltration.
Etiologically this could be due to – between others – immun mediated
processes, estrogenintoxication or medical dug intoxication (for example
cytostatica, phenylbutazone, trimethioprim-sulfonamide), parvo virus infection or a chronic Ehrlichiosis/Leishmaniosis.”
Hi Tharin and Milk
Welcome to the site. I know you must be very worried right now.
Do you have a copy of blood test results? If you do, can you send them by attaching to the Urgent Advice link.
https://www.secondchanceaihadogs.com/urgent-advice
Patrice, the site owner is very good with understanding them and she can help you to understand what’s happening.
What does Milk weight, how old is she and what is her breed?
Also can you list the drugs and doses she’s on right now. I’m not sure if I understand if she’s still on the cyclosporine or just the mycophenolate. Mycophenolate is not a favourite of mine because it can cause a lot of gastro problems. Cyclosporine is the drug of choice (that’s my opinion anyway – also, it’s what worked with my dog, so I’m biased). Is Milk still on prednisone?
Prednisone is what usually starts working quickly. Cyclosporine usually takes a bit longer to start to work. Prednisone has a lot of side effects though, so when it’s safe, it’s better to start to reduce the prednisone and leave the other immunosuppressants.
Also, has Milk’s thyroid been tested. Dr Jean Dodds, who is a specialist in this disorder, recommends using thyroid medication (even if a dog is not hypothyroid) as it helps to stimulate red blood production and platelet function. The dose is 0.1mg/10lbs given twice a day.
This is a link to her protocol for treatment.
https://www.secondchanceaihadogs.com/hemopetresources?mgi_25=17007/dr-dodds-imha-disease-and-bone-marrow-failure
Tharin, ask anything. Happy to help.
Regards, Vally
I am so sorry to read about this. This is somewhat complicated to explain but I do want you to have a lot of hope for survival. Please read this story of Chance, this site is up in memory of him. He survived from bone marrow failure and since we have had this site up, many other dogs have survived this condition. https://www.secondchanceaihadogs.com/our-stories/chance
If the vet is negative and suggests euthanasia, remember that you are the owner and you drive the bus. There are treatments that are very successful, Vally has pointed you to Dr. Dodds protocol.
I would also suggest that you also contact Dr. Dodds for a consultation, let’s call it a second opinion, because I believe this is a special instance where there may need to be treatment to attack the tick disease. Look here at the top of the page for the Owner Consultation Request. https://www.secondchanceaihadogs.com/hemopetresources
Anaplasmosis is a very serious tick disease and may very well still be in the body, causing havoc. Please read this page about Anaplasmosis carefully. https://sites.google.com/site/tickbornediseaseindogs/ehrlichiosis
There is a definite link to bone marrow failure from this tick disease.
Dogs with bone marrow failure are different from dogs with autoimmune hemolytic anemia. The damage to their red blood cells occurs inside the blood vessels, essentially causing them to break apart. Dogs with bone marrow failure have poor or no production of red blood cells. The ones that are in circulation are fine, but each day a small number of older red blood cells are destroyed normally. They just aren’t being replaced.
Dogs with bone marrow failure therefore slowly loose RBC which contains hemoglobin inside, this is called anemia, not enough hemoglobin to carry oxygen to the body cells. These dogs can adjust better to the slower loss of hemoglobin than a dog that loses a lot in just a few days. Transfusions are necessary over time for these dogs as the treatment progresses to resolve the bone marrow failure. I just want to make sure you vet understands that any transfusions after the first one needs to each be carefully typed and matched to avoid transfusion reactions.
My best Patrice
Hi, Vally and Patrice,with
thank you for your super fast ansers!
I just filled out the consultation request for Dr. Dodds a few hours ago.
I just sent you the overview of the CBC, PCR/antibodytests of all the blood parasite stuff and medications via the urgent advice link. Let me know, if you did not get it, please.
(Forgot to mention there: The colors indicate different labratories.)
Milki is a English-Bull-Terrier-Cross of 9 years, female and spayed. She is a thyroid patient. Her values weren’t cleary, but she seemed better off with the Thyroxin regarding her behavior (more relaxed – she had really bad childhood and therefore a lot of problems). And weaning off made here spook very easily.
She weighs right now 18.6kg=41lbs, if spring Usual weight before all of this was about 19,5-20 kg = 43to44lbs. Weight loss is mainly muscle. She used to be very athletic.
Medication right now:
1/d Omeprazol 20
1/d 40mg Prednisolon
2/d 150mg Ciclosporin
2x/d 250mg Mycophenolate
1/d 80mg Enrofloxacine (WBC count litte high on last CBC)
I read Chance’s story. That really gives hope and power to fight the odds.
Even if I am the driver of the bus, I can’t go without gasoline, so to speak. I am in the lucky situation, that I can do the blood draw, cross match myself and my vet (not the clinic one) is totally on our side, Milki and mine. I am allready looking for ways to get pRBC with my vet. He is not negative at all, it’s just the clinic vets – who allready have all the transfusion equipment, even for pRBCs, but will not provide it. But – as mentioned – we’ll do on our own, if forced to do. We just need to find the fitting donors. :)
There were no spherocytes seen in blood smear, so it’s unlikely a hemolytic thing going on. Coombs negative, too.
I am not sure about the ciclosporine dosis hightened at 150mg twice daily just because no reticulocytosis was seen then. I testet (in human lab) for ciclosporine level on this dosage and it was 965 ng/ml 10 hours after morning dose and 2 hours before evening dose. It’s way out of range for humans. Don’t know about therapeutic range for dogs.
Clinic vet does not care and commited vet does not know about range preferred for aplastic anemia.
With the immunosuppressants the loss of RBC/HCT/HB dropped to even smaller (if I calculated right) then the expected daily loss.
Platelets were very big and “fluffy”, when count was low. Now they go back to normal size and look. Also the clotting seems way more normal, when doing a blood draw (was very fast before – so glad, she did not get thrombosis!).
But the erythrocytes become smaller with anemia. But MCHC higher. Pathologist did not evaluate the blood smear as micocytic though. Do you understand that? I could understand microcytic-hypochromatic, but microcytic-normochromatic? Or is it likely a meassurement artifact in the hematology automat – cause in the blood smear the experts (lab and pathologist) did say normocytic-normochromatic?
(The automat is a Procyte DX.)
You are so right about the warning for blood typing! My vet and me are very cautious about it. That’s why I did a cross match myself with major/minor and incubation time (30min) as well as mix of whole blood with incubation time. The clinic mixes a drop of donor and recepient blood on object slide and examines it directly. I’m a bit spooked with that method, so I did it the matching myself – and let the clinic do it their way again, so double check. ;)
Thank you so much.
Tharin
Oh, saw, it’s a bit misleading above: Trying to wean off the Thyroxin made her spook easily, so I did not go further and went back to her dosage. Is was 250 twice daily for a T4 around 4 (1.3 – 4.5), where she seemed to be most comfortable. Now I give (w/o T4 testing) 300 again since yesterday. Read about Dr. Dodds advice and because the pred might push the T$ level down.
Hello, dear ladies (and gentlemen?),
I got back some blood work. EPO and second Parvo titer.
EPO not high in fact:
EPO (EIA) 2.78 U/l < 6
And Parvo:
1:640 (last time 1:320 – so just one dilution different, maybe just subjective to the microscopist, it’s an IFAT test)
But the EPO? Is that normal? It was done before the last transfusion, so at HCT ca 15%. Would have expected much higher EPO.
Kidney function parameters all normal in the same blood draw.
I am totally confused – please enlighten me!
Best regards,
Katharina (Tharin)