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Sorry I didn’t mean to misspeak but I re-read my above post. Kefir is NOT bad for Dogs. What I was thinking but it didn’t come across as such is… It won’t hurt but it doesn’t add much to help. It CAN cause Diarrhea but it may not. Kefir is one of those things that you may jut be spending money on something that really does nothing.
On the contrary, goat milk is often used by breeders for puppies because of it’s well known property of being easily digestible.
I have used goat milk for all my puppies as I transition their diets. Kayleigh is doing quite well on it.
I don’t use a large quantity but she probably gets about a half cup per meal. She is a Giant schnauzer so her anticipated weight is 90 lb. Right now she is about half that.
For smaller dogs I would measure per tbls. Dose to tolerance.
My best Patrice
Patrice. That is what I have learned as well. The Goats milk is really good for them and helps to balance the bacteria in their digestive track. Which in turn helps the absorption of amino acids and helps build muscle. So I say YES to the goats milk but as I was instructed go slowly as not to cause stomach upset.
Im sorry I didn’t answer your question about who recommended this diet change. My vet had me contact a holistic animal dietician who is great at structuring diets for sick animals to help their bodies to try and heal and aid in boosting immunity. After she asked me a million questions about Coal,al her meds, her condition and her over behavior. She came up with a diet that was approved by my vet. This woman has helped heal dogs after cancer treatment and with arthritis and other chronic disease to healthy happy animals.
Hi AMY your vet sounds great , at least they y are trying to help with everything your dog needs to get better xxxx can i ask you is your pup on similar drugs to Snoopy? Thankyou for all the info. PATRICEi have some fort flora here left from when snoopy was on his antibiotic just wandering if it would helphim if i still use it or if its not nesecarry now.hope everyones doggies are well lo ve and hugs Jill & Snoopy xxx
Coal is not on the same meds. Because she is so young they were extremely hesitant to put her on Azathioprine or any drugs like it as we have no idea how these meds will disrupt her normal growth. Large breed dogs are not considered full grown until the age of 2 so we have to be careful to not overload her system and cause her not to grow into a big healthy girl. She is now on prednisone, famotidine and melatonin. I feel very blessed to have such an amazing veterinarian. She is so willing to do what ever it takes to get Coal healthy and keep her there. She has been spending time reading about the latest treatments and the best protocols for IMHA and she has been driving other vets across the county crazy asking questions about everything! She is really an amazing lady. I love her! She believes very strongly that the body wants to heal itself and to feed our animals the right things to help their body heal. That is why she sent me to the dietitian. If I may chime in about the probiotics… The dietitian said that giving our dogs probiotics that humans use is like flushing money down the toilet. She said it won’t hurt but it doesn’t really do anything to help. The bacteria in a dogs digestive system is not the same as humans. That is why the push for the goats milk. So if you are looking for something to help balance his digestive system that is the way to go. I was giving my dogs probiotics and she said to stop wasting my money. So I just wanted to pass that on to you and anyone else here.
Second Chance AIHA Dogs has several cooperative relationships with people and websites that have information that we value highly. Without these relationships, our moderators would be overwhelmed attempting to research and pass on information that is valid and accurate.
Our goal is to provide the absolute best information we can to owners with sick dogs. We do a lot of research to make sure that happens. The internet is clogged with information that may not be reliable for many reasons, perhaps because of a money generating site or misinformation spread through forums. We try to evaluate that information so we aren’t contributing to the problem.
One of our valued relationships is with Mary Straus who owns http://www.dogaware.com. Mary has spent years researching canine nutrition. In addition she also has a wealth of information on diseases and their treatments. We trust Mary’s information and use it as a valuable resource for nutritional information.
Mary recommends Kefir for dogs and I also recommend it for dogs. It is not appropriate to say that Kefir is bad for dogs, that is misleading.
To read more about Dogaware visit our Nutrition Resources page and click on the link to Dogaware:
https://www.secondchanceaihadogs.com/nutrition-resources/
Here is the specific link to information about Kefir and dogs:
http://dogaware.com/articles/wdjhomemade2.html#muscle
“Dairy products, such as yogurt, kefir, and cottage cheese, are well tolerated by most dogs and offer good nutritional value. Yogurt with added probiotics and kefir, another cultured milk product, have the added advantage of providing beneficial bacteria (probiotics). Dairy fat is a source of medium-chain triglycerides, a form of fat that is easier to digest for dogs with pancreatic disorders and other forms of fat intolerance. ”
There are several disease conditions where dogs cannot tolerate proteins like red meat proteins. The use of cultured dairy products in moderation is beneficial especially to these dogs. Take for example kidney disease. Here is Mary’s research on a popular supplement used to treat dogs with kidney disease:
http://www.dogaware.com/health/kidneymedical.html
“I heard but was unable to verify that the probiotics in Azodyl are a subset of those found in kefir, a cultured milk product similar to yogurt but with a wider variety of beneficial organisms, and that the manufacturers of Azodyl, when pressed, admitted that the product was derived from kefir. This suggests that feeding kefir might be beneficial for dogs with kidney disease, though Azodyl is probably a more concentrated source. Kefir is easy to make once you get the starter “grains,” which look like little cauliflowers (this is not the same as a starter culture that is sometimes sold, but which is not self-propagating. The nutritional profile is very similar to yogurt. ”
Certainly we are cautious about recommending any specific foods for dogs that have are experiencing current digestive disorders like colitis. Serious disease like that is best treated by a vet and whatever the vet says trumps our recommendations. However, that said, Mary’s information about these serious conditions is valid and should be taken into consideration.
my best
patrice
Hi all thankyou so much for your information, Snoopy has been fine till now but this morning his diareh is back! im wondering if he has picked up a bug as I haven’t given him anything different to eat , he did manage to get hold of an empty yogurt pot and lick it out yesterday as he has a habit of trying to go down the bin! might pop to see the vet for check up if it carrys on. I think I will stick to what im giving Snoopy at the moment food wise as his Royal Canin DOG FOOD and treat of turkey breast seems to be suiting him . Amy I would keep hold of that vet she sounds great, I wish there were more like that! Thankyou Patrice the Kefir does sound good , and I will look into nutrition , just a bit weary what to give Snoopy as he has suffered a bad tum in past and is sensitive to a lot of things , he cant have chicken as it upsets him. hope all your doggies are well, love and hugs Jill and Snoopy xxxx