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Hi Alyssa,
your Sassy is beautiful! What a lovely girl and I love your fiancee’s smile!
I want to pipe in about the bio prep. The testimonials are so convincing, I could not help but order it for my dog. (I dealt with AIHA 5 years ago) Just like your vet, mine did not see any harm in it, however she did not really believe there were any benefits either. When I really started to get nervous about giving it, was when I read that it boosts the immune system. Here I was giving my dog lots of medications to suppress the immune system and this product claims it boost it. I consequently discontinued it. Just something to think about…
A reduction of 25% every 2-3 weeks is very reasonable. I would do a CBC or at least a PCV before any reductions.
Best wishes,
Brigitte
Hi Alyssa
Just been reading through your story – goodness you’ve been fighting with real determination & am delighted to hear Sassy is getting better & better – she’s had a rough start & you are doing a great job. Glad you found us!
I have to agree with Brigitte & Tamara – I am skeptical about the BioPrep because although there are testimonials, there is no factual medical research that we can find. Also, you don’t want to stimulate the immune system, your need it suppressed – that is the whole point of treatment for AIHA/IMHA. However, Sassy was already getting the right drugs & they must have started to work before you gave her the BioPrep – maybe at that stage it helps? I really don’t know. We all wish there was an alternative treatment for this disease so that we didn’t have to give them all these powerful drugs with all the side effects that come with them. Let’s hope that one day, there will be a simple “cure”. For now there isn’t & this disease is truly horrible.
The jury is out on this BioPrep. As far as I’m concerned, all that matters is beautiful Sassy (LOVE the photos) is getting better & that is the most important thing. Take the weaning slowly as others have said. It’s worth doing things slowly. You can read more here:
https://www.secondchanceaihadogs.com/AIHA_Terms/prednisone-dose-reduction/
Alyssa, it’s a real bug bear of mine that there are still people who use dogs as breeding machines – despicable. Pit Bulls are a much maligned breed & are victims of all sorts of awful people. I hate it because they are the sweetest natured dogs -there are only bad owners, no bad Pit Bulls at all. You are a lovely lady to take her in & give her the best possible chance to enjoy her life from now on. You really have done one amazing job.
Keep us posted as to how she’s doing as often as you can – we will all be thinking of you.
Love Sheena, Worzel & Ollie xxxxx
Good evening everyone! Hope you all are well. We’re doing good today. Acting like we haven’t eaten for a month as always!
My goodness, the kindness, support and knowledge offered here is amazing. I so wish I had found you a few weeks ago when I was at my lowest. I can’t believe how hard I cried and prayed during that first week. I didn’t know if she was going to make it through the night so many times. It was so rough, and I felt alone. Several times I had to wake someone else up at night because I didn’t want to be around Sassy crying like I was, & I needed some support myself before I just suck into a serious depression. The way this disease hits is so horrible, sudden, devastating – I think thats why it was so hard on me – she went from absolutely fine to basically dead in the span of 1 day and there was no time to process anything.
I hear you guys on the Bioprep. I too was skeptical. I almost didn’t give it to her. During my research I looked at their FB page where someone did voice the concern of immune boosting, and they replied that it did not boost the immune system. It is hard to believe people with no hard research & taking words of faith. But by that afternoon, looking at her, she was looking exactly like she had before each vet visit that delivered horrible news – she wouldn’t look at us, wouldn’t drink or eat, we had to physically move her. I decided I couldn’t not take the chance that it would help at that point, because there wasn’t anything else I could do for her. The immediate response has kept me giving it to her. At this point I’d be scared to stop! I feel she is improving faster than a lot of stories I’ve read (knock on wood). I do wonder if it’s helping. I will continue to look for any signs of backsliding and if I see them the bioprep might be the first thing I change. For now, I’m going to stick with it.
She was pretty perky today and also stinky from licking peanut butter and eggs. Decided to give her a warm bath. She took it really well. I think she feels better now. Also gave her a nail clipping – we have wood floors and I’m having to keep her nails real short because she is pretty weak and I don’t want her nails causing her to slip. Her back legs are losing so much muscle so fast. I have started walking her up a short hill every time we go out. I feel it in my thighs so I hope it’s working on her too.
Sassys story before we got her is truly horrible. I will tell it now, but it’s a long read so feel free to skip it!!
Our neighbors that lived behind us had her – one morning, my dad was leaving for work. Sassy was standing by his truck with a puppy in her mouth, skin and bones. She was no longer able to feed the pups because she wasn’t being fed and she knew it. My dad brought some food out for her and the pup. The next morning… Sassy had brought ALL of her pups up here, again, pleading with her eyes at my dad for help.
We had another dog at this time, Sadie, who was about 15 years old and in the late stages of heart failure. So, we didn’t immediately think to just take Sassy, worried the stress it would cause Sadie. We brought a bunch of food down to the neighbors, told them what Sassy was doing an really chewed them out/threatened them to feed the dogs. She claimed she didn’t know the pups needed dog food already, and did start feeding them. I know she had bred Sassy before and I know what she was doing – even though we were pissed off and threatening her she tried to sell us a puppy claiming Sassy was AKC registered and pure. That’s all they cared about. They tried to lock sassy up, but everyday she got out and came to be with us instead. We’d feed her, play, pet, love. At night she wanted to sleep on our porch. Really wanted nothing to do with her “home”. She basically slowly worked her way into our life/hearts, and after a while it was like she was ours. Eventually, those neighbors – the husband went to jail and I don’t know where the wife went but she was gone. For a few weeks, everything was good.
Then one day, Sassy disappeared. I still do not know what happened to her. I think that someone saw her and snatched her up, being that she is a pit. We did not see her for a month and it was devastating. We drove around looking for her, looking for a dog hit by a car on the road sides. There was just no trace of her at all.
Then, one night, she was back. She was very skinny again. She was also pregnant again. I think that, where ever she was, she got away and found her way back to us – I truly do. That night we put a collar on her and brought her inside, officially welcoming her to the family this time.
This pregnancy was rough on her. At around 4AM one night she went into labor. The first pup came out fine, but then the second one got stuck. She tried so hard to get it out but couldn’t. We had to rush her to the vet. The vet could not loosen or rotate the pup and Sassy was losing strength. She had to have an emergency c-section right there. She was spayed at the same time. That stuck pup did not make it, but everyone else was fine. We took the pup home in a small box and buried her. We raised the pups – it was my first time raising puppies – also dealing with my elderly dog being sick – it was a stressful time for everyone. But we loved those pups and took the best care of them. We made little packages when we gave them away, letting the people know what they were eating and tried to educate them on the dangers of feeding food like Pedigree & Ol’ Roy. We put booklets of information about that along with a bagful of their current food and toys.
Shortly before we gave away the puppies, Sadie had passed away. She just had a whole lot of trouble breathing suddenly and collapsed. We rushed to the vet but she was turning blue. The revived her with oxygen and we thought she was going to make it, they had us walk her outside for a bit, but she had another episode a few minutes later. At that point the vet said her heart was just giving up, and we had to let her go. It was the saddest day of my life. I had that dog since I was about 8 years old, and she was there for my when I was diagnosed with my life-long illness – type 1 diabetes. I had a rough childhood & she was always my best friend. I really didn’t remember a time before she was in my life. So when we got home, we leaned heavily on Sassy for love and help, and she truly kept us afloat with all her love and silliness. It was hard to fall into a depression with her at our side.
Hi Alyssa and the gorgeous Sassy
Wow, what a gorgeous Pup she is.
I’m so sorry you’re all going through this awful experience. My Molly was diagnosed with IMHA 3weeks ago and I totally understand how terrifying it is to see our precious fur babies suffering like this.
You are incredible Alyssa – it’s amazing how you’re dealing with this. You’re so together already. I’ve found that getting educated about Molly’s illness has enabled me to look after her better so good on you Girl.
I’m a total novice and in the UK where there is less known about these dreadful illnesses and their treatment than the rest of the world so I have little practical help to offer.
I just wanted to let you know that you’re not alone & Im so happy you’ve found this wonderful Team.
You’re in very good hands.
I’m thinking of you and your beautiful Girl. Molly and I are sending positive, healthy wishes.
Much love
Leza&Molly xxxx
Hi Leza! Thank you so much. I too am sorry you are going through the same thing. :(
Educating myself did help, although in the very beginning all I read was horror stories – how quick they die, how unlikely treatment would help. It was a while of reading these stories of horrible deaths. I finally found Meisha’s Hope website, and that finally gave me some hope. I read the stories on that site every night. I prayed I could one day submit Sassys story there. I hope I will be able to. People need to see these success stories because there are so many sad ones you are going to read about first.
I am so appreciative of the support here. Again. Thank you so much, everyone.
I just placed an order for a few natural tick repellents to try. Has anyone tried these specifically?
Rose Geranium oil-
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003GSGXAE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Curealia balm-
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0051H7VQ8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Curealia spray –
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009ZJE1NY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
How many of you guys still give HW medication? If so, is there a particular brand that seems safer? Mosquito’s are just so bad in the summer, I don’t see how I can get away with not using it. :(
Hi Alyssa
What a wonderful yet sad story – I knew you were the kindest people – Sassy is in safe & loving hands. What horrible people your neighbours were – good for you for standing up to them & making sure Sassy was rescued from this awful life.
Many of us were on Meisha’s Hope originally, but the forum was shut down. That is why Patrice set this site up, so we could continue to help each other & new owners coping with this terrible disease. I’m sorry you lost dear Sadie – it doesn’t matter how old they are – we wish they could live a happy & healthy life as long as we do & their loss is always heartbreaking. I guarantee she is looking down with pride & happiness at Sassy & you right now.
What a shame you didn’t find us sooner – we could have explained that with right treatment the chances of surviving are much, much better than you may have read elsewhere. Many veterinary studies are extremely positive on the outcome if the treatment protocol is right & those are the ones you need to concentrate on. I’m so sorry you felt very down & sad during the early days & went through this dreadful time without support. I admit I am not a FB fan – there is too much miss-information & heresay on there. Of course, we all like to express our opinions here – but we also like to point everyone toward bona fide research & proven treatments so you have the best information we can give – basically providing you with the facts, rather than the rumours.
I know you may be against chemical options, but I am a great believer in Frontline Combo for flea & tick treatment. For now it is probably the best option for protection against the deadly diseases that can kill our dogs very quickly. It’s not 100% perfect, I admit, but there is nothing better or safer that I have personally seen at the moment. You could also use permethrin, but it is toxic to cats & fish, also some other animals (it’s fine for dogs but you must follow the instructions implicitly). Worzel was a victim of a tick-borne disease called ehrlichiosis even though he was always Frontlined, so I am even more vigilant than I was before about treatment with Frontline, plus checking my two regularly for ticks. I also use permethrin on their blankets. I am dubious about the tablet forms of protection such as Bravecto & NexGard (Nexgard is not suitable – dangerous -for certain breeds of dogs with MDR1 gene mutation, e.g. border collies, german shepherds etc) because of the possible systemic side effects. I can’t help you on heartworm as we don’t have that here (YET!) but I know others will be able to advise you on this. I do remember a heartworm treatment called ProHeart 6 was suspected of being responsible for AIHA/IMHA though. Heartworm is also a horrendous disease & I understand completely that you need to look at how to prevent this too.
You know Sassy has a place in my heart already & you are not on your own now – we all want to help as much as we can – sending big hugs & much love
Sheena, Worzel & Ollie xxxxx
Wow Alyssa, what a story! You are right Sassy is meant to be with you. Good for you to read the Meisha’s Hope success stories, they are all so positive and can give you hope that Sassy can pull through this and come out the other end happy and healthy. I think you did a great job not falling apart in front of Sassy! I just got back from a phenomenal agility seminar and it was mentioned over and over, that we can not lie to our dogs. They read our bodies so well, they know if we mean it or not. So by you removing yourself when you are down, you certainly can not lie to her. Now you really have to learn to have faith in her recovering. Look her in the eyes and tell her that she will get better and run around like before the illness. When my dog was ill I had a huge problem staying positive. A very clever friend told me to visualize how I want my dog to be healthy, to run around and not have any problems. Maybe that could help?
I just wanted to give you a bit of a warning about trying and exercise Sassy. I am sure you are in tune with her and you don’t push her too much. Muscle wasting just goes with the high doses of prednisone but once you can reduce the dose Sassy will build up those muscles again. Just be careful not to do too much with her at this stage, she still needs lots of rest to heal.
I totally get it that you want to stick with the bio prep. Like I said I used it too, unfortunately our success with it was not as great as yours. My vet was neither here nor there and I believe Dr. Dodds says it can not hurt, so if you see an improvement, go for it.
I am pretty sure Dr. Dodds recommends to use HW meds. We are lucky here in the Pacific North West (Canada) we don’t need it. I only have to use it when we travel. Our holistic vet recommends Sentinel and I think Dr. Dodds agrees with extending the intervals to 45 days instead of 30.
I think it is very important to stay positive with this disease and you are doing just that! Keep it up!
Best wishes,
Brigitte
Alyssa – couldn’t agree with Brigitte more on the exercise front – keep Sassy quiet. Muscle wasting is a side effect of the pred & sadly we can’t avoid it. Worzel was like a skeleton at one point – he even lost his head & jaw muscle tone – this is called pred head! They can damage ligaments, tendons, joints because of the lack of supporting muscle in the worst scenario. She needs loads of rest – a gentle, calm walk is fine though. Sorry – I should have said this yesterday too, Thanks Brigitte!
Love Sheena x