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Hi Tamara
Don’t you dare feel bad about the algae – my goodness, we’ve all beaten ourselves up too much for things we have done unintentionally (or with the best intentions!). The drug regime looks fine to me too – I had to do a spread sheet as things got so complicated with all the meds & what can/can’t be given together or with food etc etc! Glad to see no spherocytes, agglutination & that was what I was hoping you would say – good stuff!
It is exhausting looking after a pet with this disease & I’m not surprised you’re taking a nap here & there. I don’t think I had a proper night’s sleep for at least couple of months early on, extra pee pees etc & sleeping with my hand on his heart to make sure it was still going. I bet my neighbours are delighted I don’t rush into the garden in the middle of the night in my undies any more, wondering where Worzel had disappeared to!
Ashki’s obviously feeling perky if he’s barking at cats (again apologies to Mable who we love dearly) & I am sending you our best wishes & crossed paws, fingers, toes and anything else for an improvement in the blood tests. Please let as know a.s.a.p. as we will ALL be thinking of you.
Sheena, Worzel & Ollie xxxx
Ashki’s PCV was 21 today! No bone marrow pathology yet. I asked the nurse to email me the bloodwork results, I’ll text her to remind her.
I know I’ve said it before but I’ll say it again, I’m so thankful for this forum. Having your understanding and support is priceless.
With love and gratitude —
Tamara and Ashki xoxo
Dear Tamara
You are so very welcome & we are all glad you’ve found us too – we are all willing Ashki better from afar & understand completely what you are going through. Anyone who hasn’t experienced this rare & difficult disease does not understand the angst we feel.
I know you wanted more, but 21 is “OK” as in they can manage reasonably well. Don’t let it go much lower though. Transfusions are there to help them through this early non-regenerative stage & some dogs can need several. Worzel was “OK” at 17/18 for quite a while & we were lucky enough not to have to transfuse as it stayed around there for ages without dropping. I really want to see the blood tests, but I would like to see retics test & bone marrow results even more. I know you will be sending them to Dr Dodds (the best thing you could possibly do), so drop us a copy if & when you can. I wish the drugs worked instantly, but they don’t. It’s very hard to be patient, but we have to be.
I noticed you wanted to see what happens with RBC production – have a look at the explanation on here in our AIHA terms – there is interesting information about other organs producing red blood cells, as well as bone marrow, plus how important EPO is
https://www.secondchanceaihadogs.com/AIHA_Terms/hematopoiesis/
also
http://almostadoctor.co.uk/content/systems/haematology/haematopoiesis-blood-cell-formation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erythropoiesis
Our dear Patrice has made some great videos you can watch about IMHA/AIHA which includes information about blood tests etc.
https://www.secondchanceaihadogs.com/aiha-video-library/
That should keep you occupied, as if you haven’t got enough to do looking after Ashki! I also wanted to know everything, so I don’t blame you – that is easier said than done as this is a complicated subject, but it does pay to get your head around what is or isn’t happening as much as you can.
I really want to hear what is happening on the reticulocyte front now – come on Ashki, you beautiful boy – Mum wants to see lots of retics!
Keep us posted & keep on doing the wonderful job you are doing with Ashki.
Loads of the best wishes possible
Sheena, Worzel & Ollie xxxxxxx
Thanks so very much for the links Sheena, they’re very helpful. I got a chance to talk more with the internist yesterday about Ashki’s blood marrow (no path in yet though). A month ago they were only seeing stages 1 and 2 in the marrow, and hypoplasia. This last weekend he was hyperplastic and they are seeing all 4 stages!
Like you, I very much want to know about retics. The nurse tried to email me all his bloodwork but the file was too big so she printed everything out and it is there for me to pick up, which I should be able to do today. I am going to take him in Thursday to recheck PCV; we agreed that if it is stable or up, we’ll do full bloodwork including retics. If it’s down, we will wait until Monday.
I’m really hoping we’ve turned a corner and will see steady improvement from here on out, but I know that may not be the case and we may need to add another med if the retics and RBCs continue to be targeted in the bloodstream. He is looking a little jaundiced so I’m a little concerned about that.
Last night I had the oddest experience, kind of a surreal and disoriented feeling that I can’t believe we’re going through this and have been for over 4 weeks now. Wishful thinking on my part I’m sure.
Sheena, how long was it before Worzel was regenerative and had retics? I’m trying to get a sense of expectations (btw, I love Worzel’s name :) ).
I’ll be scanning in bloodwork tonight or tomorrow, and I’m hoping I’ll have bone marrow path information soon!
with love and gratitude,
Tamara and Ashki (who is feeling much better, much more energetic and perky!)
Hello Tamara and Ashki. Again, I am SO glad you are on top of this! You are doing an awesome job of juggling everything. MUCH better than I did and I’m extremely glad about that! And that you are in touch with Dr. Dodds is the icing on the cake. :)
It was not until we added the Atopica that I started to see a marked improvement in Sadie, and it was almost 10 days after adding it. But once she started, she took off doing better and better. Hang in there. Sadie got a shot of prednisone too, the day of onset, which I swear helped her too. Also, like Vally said, the Pet Tinic is great.
How’s the acupuncture an Reiki coming along? Can you tell a difference after treatments?
It’s all so scary. When Sadie was going through those first few months, I used to wake up and think, no – I was having a nightmare and she was really well and all was okay. And then I’d realize, nope – tis true. My precious, unsuspecting little dog has AIHA. But it was okay, because she was with me (literally, next to me and my husband, in bed) and still going forward.
When things didn’t go too well in a day or she didn’t go forward as expected, I’d be really down. And when we would have something good happen (like; her poop wasn’t so soft, she wagged her tail, she slept not moving 55,000 times) or her numbers went up by any amount at all, I’d grin ear to ear. ;)
Please continue to keep us posted. Sending our love and huge hugs,
Linda and Sadie
Hi Tamara
Worzel’s story is in “our stories” but that’s a shortened version, otherwise I’d have bored everyone to tears! Worzel started to become under the weather in the October, with vague symptoms, gradual loss of appetite (feeding him tiny bits of mince by hand at the worst point) & odd behaviour. Because he has had mitral valve prolapse for a few years (treated with pimobendane), we floundered around with looking at heart problems etc. We were pretty clueless, I can tell you! To cut a long story short, I insisted on a blood test as I was sure his gums were pale & this revealed anemia. He did not respond to prednisolone (IMHA cases don’t, be we didn’t know what on earth was happening then), then he developed a temperature & his PCV was slowly, slowly dropping & dropping. We had no possibility of matched blood in a hurry & I didn’t know what we were going to do. I started to look at obtaining it from UK or vet schools here. The local vets then started antibiotics (high dose doxycycline for 6 weeks) as we all began to suspect tick disease (ehrlichiosis) which would run rife without treatment as the steroids would allow it to completely overcome the compromised immune system. There is no such thing as snap tests here & his blood samples came back negative. However, we were referred to a specialist who said that 4 out of 5 tests can come back negative, even if ehrlichiosis is present, so we decided to take the leap of faith that he should be treated for that & bone marrow biopsy confirmed IMHA. Specialist started azathioprine & 2 weeks later we had retics in the bloodstream – we cried with joy as we thought this might go on & on & he was becoming horribly thin & weak. As you can see, we had an advantage over you in that we knew or had a 99% idea of the cause of the IMHA, but Ashki was started on an additional immuno-suppressant quickly, so you have the advantage in that respect.
I am so pleased to read about the extra stages of erthropoeisis that have appeared since the first biopsy on Ashki & that is very hopeful. Even though Worzel stopped killing off his retics, it took a while for his PCV to come up. He also had slight jaundice (bilirubin) for a while – I bought some human wee test strips from the chemist & checked it every day to see what level it was to put my mind at rest more than anything- just an idea you might like to try? You will probably see protein too, due to the drugs, but that is “normal” sadly. I hope you can get more information from the biopsy result when you see it & personally I would do a blood test every 3 days or so, to keep a close eye on things for peace of mind. Yes, of course you have other drug choices so please, please keep thinking positive. Non-regenerative anaemia can be a real challenge until you find the right treatment protocol. The only thing that has been bothering me with Ashki is that maybe something has caused it & that needs to be successfully stabilised / treated, e.g. hypothyroidism, GI infection, but I’m not a vet. I would still like to see the blood/biopsy results if that’s OK with you. Although I doubt I’ll spot anything your vets haven’t seen, I may be able to perhaps explain things to you in a better fashion.
Anyway, please carry on being a fantastic caring Mum – Ashki is in the best possible hands with you & all your vets. Please keep us posted!
Best possible wishes & a cuddle for dear Ashki,
Sheena & the boys xxxx