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The wonders of Tylan – Worzel’s persistent diarrhoea & GI Tract problem story
It started with intermittent but very severe, projectile diarrhoea which smelled absolutely horrendous. We went to the vet who gave us kaolin & an anti-spasmodic for a week. This temporarily made him a little better, as in the diarrhoea became porridge-like, rather than very runny. On stopping the meds, the projectile diarrhoea returned, so back to the vets. More kaolin & a broad spectrum antibiotic. Again, a slight improvement, but on stopping the antibiotics, back to projectile. The smell was UNBELIEVABLY bad – noxious wind & tummy ache – gurgling noises & discomfort. The smell made me think maybe Giardia? A guess really.
By this time, I was getting frustrated as the vets were pussy footing around & Worzel was really fed up with himself – he felt rotten, just as we would with constant diarrhoea. So, I decided to see a different vet (the one I chose when Worzel was eventually diagnosed with IMHA) & we discussed hitting it hard. I found a very useful website which I recommend everyone looks at if their dog has persistent tummy troubles which recommends Tylan:
http://www.epi4dogs.com/sidsibo.htm about SID/SIBO
We now strongly suspected Giardia may have caused the initial attack & this needs strong, long treatment to ensure all the cysts that can hide in the GI tract are killed off. A poo test would have taken weeks to come back, so we didn’t bother – we started treatment. We used a strong de-wormer for 5 days (Dolthene), followed up with metronidazole for a few days only. I had also contacted Dr Jean Dodds as Worzel’s blood work was showing a massively high Vitamin B12 level (yes – trust him to have something very unusual!), indicating he had severe bacterial overgrowth. This can prevent proper absorption of food & especially Vitamin B12, which can only be absorbed in the ileum, a section of the intestines.
I did not want to use metronidazole for long-term use because of the risk of neurological side effects – it’s fine for a short course – both Dr Dodds & my vet recommended at least a month’s course of antibiotics & probiotics to get his GI tract back to normal. I wanted to use Tylan, but was unable to get it in France, so I had to source it from the USA. Amazon.com sell it, thank goodness. Dr Dodds also wanted me to use it in preference to metronidazole because it is very safe & effective & can be used for a long time without side effects. Dogs can actually take it forever if necessary, but the minimum dose is recommended.
I would recommend everyone to use Tylan if necessary, under the guidance of your vet of course. It has excellent anti-inflammatory properties, in addition to be being an antibiotic. Although it is safe for most dogs, it is NOT safe for dogs with the MDR1 gene mutation (border collies, herding dogs, German shepherds plus many others), so never use for these dog breeds without getting a blood test for this gene mutation first. Also dogs which take digitalis compounds (digoxin) for heart problems cannot take it (unless under strict control of a veterinarian) because it can increase digitalis levels in the bloodstream – again check with your vet if your dog is on heart medication. Dogs can also be allergic to certain antibiotics, but Tylan is normally very well tolerated.
After just 3 days of use of Tylan, Worzel had firmer poos. A week later, he had normal poos – then horrendous smell had gone – no mucus, no strange yellow/orange colour. After 5 weeks, I reduced the dose to half for a week, then stopped it altogether. It is not necessary to reduce it – you can stop it straight away – but in view of how long he had suffered, I thought it would be best to try a reduction first. He has been fine ever since, touch wood! If the diarrhoea had returned, I could have put him back on it, no problem.
The moral of the story is that if your dog has persistent tummy troubles, there is something wrong & it needs to be treated properly, otherwise they may become more & more ill & can become anaemic – the last thing any of us want is the return of that, or the worsening of it. We all know how important it is to get the right nutrients for the formation of new red blood cells – Vitamin B12 is an essential part of that. Malabsorption is a big cause of worry for many of us dealing with IMHA – our dogs will not stand a chance of a good recovery unless they have the right building blocks to make more red cells.
Useful links
http://www.epi4dogs.com/sidsibo.htm
http://www.vetinfo.com/canine-diarrhea-treatment-tylan.html#b
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3084160/
Love to all, Sheena, Worzel & Ollie xxxxx
Funny you should mention this because about 2 months ago, I couldn’t get Jackie on normal food and she could only eat chicken and rice otherwise she would continue to have horrible diarrhea. She had only been eating chicken and rice for months because of all of her GI issues and I really wanted to get her back on dry dog food so she would be getting balanced meals. The vet thought it was her pancreatitis that was not getting better or Inflammatory Bowel disease so we did more tests and found that she was B12 deficient so the vet suggested we put her on B12 shots and Tylan powder just for process of elimination. If that didn’t work, we would move on to more testing for Addisons and IBD. Well, almost immediately she got better and was able to start eating dry (prescription) dog food and has been holding strong ever since!! Now I am wondering why this wasn’t mentioned before when she started having diarrhea at the beginning!! Jackie had diarrhea almost consistently for 4 months ever since the beginning of being diagnosed with IMHA. Poor baby! It feels so good to have her 100% normal again!
Hi all, Maggie has had a few bouts with diarrhea since being on all these meds. My vet prescribed Tylan powder & it seems to clear it up within a few days each time. I now give it occasionally if I notice she is starting to have issues when going yo the bathroom. I was told a very little bit goes a long way. My original script says give 1/16 tsp 3x day for three days. When I use occasionally now I typically give 2 x day & it clears up that same day. I haven’t posted in awhile but still check in with the progress of everyone’s babies. I am forever grateful to everyone here who has helped us through the most difficult times!
Xoxo
Jen & Mags
I’ve also had Bingo on this with really good results quickly. I asked my vet if she’d heard of it and she had, but had never used it. I think because it’s not easy to get here (Australia). I ended up finding one place that did capsules and for a 2 month supply was going to charge of $700. I then found another place that would supply the powder for a whole $40. I bought some capsules on Ebay and filled them. Its prescription only in Australia and I had seen when searching for it that it would not get passed Customs here.
I did it Sheena’s way of 4 weeks at twice a day, then I did 2 weeks at once a day and a further 2 weeks at every second day – yes over the top as usual.
I emailed Dr Dodds about dosing and her answer was “You can safely use Tylan powder long term, if needed at a lower dose– once the full dose have been given for 4-6 weeks. You can phase it out as Sheena did, or just continue it at a half dose, or stop it and restart it, if the diarrhea returns.”
Good post Sheena – good question Linda.
Vally & Bingo
xxx
Glad this has helped – should have put in on earlier – sorry. The problem for me was that Tylan is not available here in France & I absolutely didn’t want him on metronidazole long term. So, I mooched around trying to find a bona fide, safe alternative. This was when I came across this great site:
epi4dogs.com/sidsibo.htm
If Jean Dodds also approves, it’s got my vote.
Amazon did not deliver to France then, so a very kind lady sent me some from the USA. Since then, via Amazon, the company has started to deliver it to France, thank goodness.
I am still in contact with my wonderful vet in the UK, but she was unable to source Tylan from any of their wholesalers, so anyone in the UK might find Amazon the best bet. Although Tylan is not actually approved by the FDA for dogs, it is a discretionary item that vets can prescribe, so you shouldn’t have a problem in the USA.
I can’t tell you how impressed I am with this product – it really is fantastic.
Jen & Anna – it’s so nice to hear from you both & to hear the babies are doing fine. Keep in touch both of you – we miss you! Glad the Tylan worked for you too – let’s hope everyone with dogs with tummy troubles can benefit from our experiences.
Love to all
Sheena, Worzel & Ollie xxxxx
sheena, bless your heart …. I am so glad that you got it for worzel and so very glad he is on the mend… bless his little heart. I had not heard of tylan but will sure look it up now… vry good to know. so far Hayley hasn’t ever had tummy woes … but as our babies get older things can and do change… I am making a note of this… so I do not forget. worzel, little boy so glad you are feeling better. lynn & hayley